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FOR THE VICTIMS: Your Fears, Betrayal & the Cyberpath
no Cross-Posted, with permission - from EOPC:
Once you find out what the cyberpath is they may do a combination of any of the following:
Everything else? was a lie.
All you will get now is narcissistic rage. Anger that you busted them. And threats of harm to you, your family and so on. Attempts to embarass you into silence (such as posting slander and other garbage around the net on you).
Just read through the stories of exposed predators and see how they treated their victims. Take a look at Ed Hicks, Doug Beckstead, J/ Gridney/ Yidwithlid, Brad Dorsky, Dan Jacoby or Keith Clive. Look at how they were to their targets once they got bored or angry with them. Watch their rage, their blame-shifting, their guilting and their disappearing acts from the lives of people who people who genuinely loved and cared about them.
The one thing we can tell you is that 95% of the time, the threats are a form of "control by temper tantrum."
Like a 6 year old they are mad that you won't play their game or said "NO" to them. Or they got bored and don't want to play with you anymore, then your emails and attention are suddenly ANNOYING. So they kick, scream, stomp away hoping you will be so upset you will let them start up their game again. Either with you or someone else. Or, that you are so scared of them you dare won't expose them or tell others.
DON'T FALL FOR IT! And don't for a second think they haven't told their online friends, offline friends, partner/ spouse, job... that you are "obsessed with" them or a "scorned" partner who's one step from being a 'bunny boiler.'
When you send just one more email or make one more call hoping for explanation, closure, something... they will say "see!! see how she is!! she's nuts and won't leave me alone! she's trying to manipulate me! She's stalking me!"
If you really want to help them? Expose them. Make them accountable. Don't let them scare you into silence. Help others stay away!
Maybe they will get their relationship/ marriage right. Maybe they will go into LONG TERM counseling. The odds are 98% of them don't. But don't let them scare you.
Take back what they took from you. Your power, your dignity and your peace of mind. - Fighter
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Betrayal, when realized, is a phenomenal existential feeling. Suddenly, your world is no longer the one you believed in. You question reality, but most of all you question yourself. How, you wonder, could I have been so naive, stupid, blind, trusting, unseeing, unknowing? It may be difficult to believe, but these questions are good. YOU are the normal person, the one who aligns reality (he was so nice to me, he was my friend) with a cognitive belief: he ACTS as if he likes me, he TELLS me he likes me, I see no reason not to believe him because in my past, people who act and speak this way, CAN be trusted. There is congruency. But not now.
But you CAN move forward. You can do so by realizing that no matter how awful the betrayal, YOU are the normal person and this betrayal comes from rage. This person envies you in some way, is enraged about it, and MUST put you down behind your back. They MUST harm you. They have no choice. But you do. In the world of normals, after we get over the shock, we can use this experience to become stronger, to help others, to learn to avoid this particular toxin, and to calm ourselves that the higher moral ground is ours. It's too bad this person acted as he did, we wish he did not, but we are NOT diminished by their pathology. Wiser, sadder, but never diminished.
The Exposer believes that cyberpathy is a form of pathology. Either narcissistic or sociopathic/ anti-social. Because its exploitative and the cyberpath has no remorse or guilt. Therefore we publish this article for the victims of cyberpaths.
Don't believe they aren't hurting you on purpose. They are. But you are not the 'object' they treated you like. Stand up and tell them. They will probably disappear from your life while painting themselves as the victim - OF YOU!
Stop giving them the opportunity - stop trying to "get through" to them, stand up for yourself and starting healing you! 
Hurting You Isn't Something Narcissists Do by Accident
by Kathy Krajco
In all the jabber about narcissism, the worst noise is this idea that hurting you is something narcissists do by accident.
If you get nothing else out of "What Makes Narcissists Tick," get the message that frees you of that ridiculous belief. Which is nothing but a baseless assumption. I don't ask you to take my word for this. Test what I say when I say that narcissists hurt you on purpose. Anyone can test any narcissist. Here's how:
What does that mean? Is revving up their engines, kicking in the afterburners, and running you right over an "accident" after you show your soft underbelly and beg them to let up on you?
It's no "accident," that's for sure.
Want to see a narcissistic rage? That's no "accident" either. The test:
Now hear this: THEY DON'T DO IT BY ACCIDENT. They aren't just inconsiderate and touchy. Test their "touchiness" (if you can do so safely, or have somebody not at the N's mercy test it - someone who can defend themselves).
Rage right back in their face. Act just as wild right back in their face. Threaten right back. Speak abusively right back. Now any normal person would be provoked to rage by your doing this in their face. But narcissists are so UNtouchy that they do the opposite.
Watch how instantaneously the raging narcissist becomes meek and mild and switches to his "I-wouldn't-hurt-a-fly-mask." Don't take my word for it. Test it.
Narcissists aren't inconsiderate of your feelings. To the contrary, they are extremely considerate of your feelings. Your feelings are exactly what they are trying to affect. They closely observe how you react every time they do something to hurt you. And they are like sharks, able to smell a drop of blood a mile away.
Why? Because your hurt feelings are their pain killing drug. They are addicted to it. Ever since childhood. That's what their mental illness is, an addiction. (In fact, all addictions are classed as mental illness.)
So where do people get the stupid idea that narcissists aren't to blame for what they do? It's asinine to think that narcissists can't control themselves when we see them controlling themselves perfectly whenever witnesses are present. So, what? being behind closed doors makes them suddenly out of control of themselves? Baloney.
Their problem isn't lack of self control; it's lack of conscience. Conscience is what makes people behave the same in the dark as in the light of day. Okay, they have an addiction to trampling people. They are hooked on the childish high they get from throwing somebody down, stepping on the victim's back, and thumping their chest with a Tarzan yell.
But since when does an addiction amount to a carte blanche? An addiction is just a TEMPTATION. It doesn't remove the addict's responsibility to resist that temptation. If a heroin addict sees you with heroin, he will attack and may kill you for it - IF there are no witnesses present. But do we absolve him of his responsibility for the crime just because he's addicted to heroin? Of course not.
Same with the narcissist. Since childhood he has done this mind-altering drug of abusing people and is addicted to it. He addicted himself.
He does what he does because nothing but getting his drug matters to him. So he has no conscience. He lives to get it, whenever he can get away with it. So, hurting others isn't something narcissists do by accident. It's how they live.
The victims of narcissists must understand this. They must quit falling for the masks predation conceals itself behind. I don't care how much the poor, little, ole narcissist whines that he didn't mean to, and claims that he has an excuse because HIS feelings were somehow hurt, and weeps about what a miserable childhood he had and how sad and forlorn he'll be if you go away, and all that crap. It's a joke.
Painful as this is to admit, the victims of narcissists MUST understand it. It's the bottom line. It predicates your choices.
Don't take my word for it: test and see. 2 + 2 = 4. Always.
Even on Thursdays.
SOURCE
ORIGINAL POST HERE
Once you find out what the cyberpath is they may do a combination of any of the following:
- Disappear and/or block you and/or change their nicknames, identity & emails
- Lash out at you
- Smear you
- Belittle you
- Tell everyone that you both know you are "crazy" or "stalking them" or (the oldest one there is) you're a "scorned man/woman."
- many other nasty, malicious things
Everything else? was a lie.
All you will get now is narcissistic rage. Anger that you busted them. And threats of harm to you, your family and so on. Attempts to embarass you into silence (such as posting slander and other garbage around the net on you).
Just read through the stories of exposed predators and see how they treated their victims. Take a look at Ed Hicks, Doug Beckstead, J/ Gridney/ Yidwithlid, Brad Dorsky, Dan Jacoby or Keith Clive. Look at how they were to their targets once they got bored or angry with them. Watch their rage, their blame-shifting, their guilting and their disappearing acts from the lives of people who people who genuinely loved and cared about them.
The one thing we can tell you is that 95% of the time, the threats are a form of "control by temper tantrum."
Like a 6 year old they are mad that you won't play their game or said "NO" to them. Or they got bored and don't want to play with you anymore, then your emails and attention are suddenly ANNOYING. So they kick, scream, stomp away hoping you will be so upset you will let them start up their game again. Either with you or someone else. Or, that you are so scared of them you dare won't expose them or tell others.
DON'T FALL FOR IT! And don't for a second think they haven't told their online friends, offline friends, partner/ spouse, job... that you are "obsessed with" them or a "scorned" partner who's one step from being a 'bunny boiler.'
When you send just one more email or make one more call hoping for explanation, closure, something... they will say "see!! see how she is!! she's nuts and won't leave me alone! she's trying to manipulate me! She's stalking me!"
If you really want to help them? Expose them. Make them accountable. Don't let them scare you into silence. Help others stay away!
Maybe they will get their relationship/ marriage right. Maybe they will go into LONG TERM counseling. The odds are 98% of them don't. But don't let them scare you.
Take back what they took from you. Your power, your dignity and your peace of mind. - Fighter
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Suddenly, you learn that someone trusted - a spouse, lover, family member, close friend - has been putting you down, lying, manipulating others against you, and yet maintaining a stance of intimacy with you.The world is not clear, the ground you stand on is wobbly. You will never feel good about this. You will not "Get Over" it.
But you CAN move forward. You can do so by realizing that no matter how awful the betrayal, YOU are the normal person and this betrayal comes from rage. This person envies you in some way, is enraged about it, and MUST put you down behind your back. They MUST harm you. They have no choice. But you do. In the world of normals, after we get over the shock, we can use this experience to become stronger, to help others, to learn to avoid this particular toxin, and to calm ourselves that the higher moral ground is ours. It's too bad this person acted as he did, we wish he did not, but we are NOT diminished by their pathology. Wiser, sadder, but never diminished.
The Exposer believes that cyberpathy is a form of pathology. Either narcissistic or sociopathic/ anti-social. Because its exploitative and the cyberpath has no remorse or guilt. Therefore we publish this article for the victims of cyberpaths.
Don't believe they aren't hurting you on purpose. They are. But you are not the 'object' they treated you like. Stand up and tell them. They will probably disappear from your life while painting themselves as the victim - OF YOU!
Stop giving them the opportunity - stop trying to "get through" to them, stand up for yourself and starting healing you!
by Kathy Krajco
In all the jabber about narcissism, the worst noise is this idea that hurting you is something narcissists do by accident.
If you get nothing else out of "What Makes Narcissists Tick," get the message that frees you of that ridiculous belief. Which is nothing but a baseless assumption. I don't ask you to take my word for this. Test what I say when I say that narcissists hurt you on purpose. Anyone can test any narcissist. Here's how:
The next time the narcissist is hurting your feelings or making you feel low, let your feelings show and tell him or her how they are making you feel asking them to stop it.Be prepared for a shock. Any normal human being would soften and let up, but a narcissist will do exactly the opposite.
What does that mean? Is revving up their engines, kicking in the afterburners, and running you right over an "accident" after you show your soft underbelly and beg them to let up on you?
It's no "accident," that's for sure.
Want to see a narcissistic rage? That's no "accident" either. The test:
Just fall to your knees in tears begging them to have a heart and stop kicking you around like dirt.The narcissist's response? He or she blows up into a rage. Is that rage an "accident" when nothing but how deeply they are hurting you provokes it? No, it's a willful and wanton outrage.
Now hear this: THEY DON'T DO IT BY ACCIDENT. They aren't just inconsiderate and touchy. Test their "touchiness" (if you can do so safely, or have somebody not at the N's mercy test it - someone who can defend themselves).
Rage right back in their face. Act just as wild right back in their face. Threaten right back. Speak abusively right back. Now any normal person would be provoked to rage by your doing this in their face. But narcissists are so UNtouchy that they do the opposite.
Watch how instantaneously the raging narcissist becomes meek and mild and switches to his "I-wouldn't-hurt-a-fly-mask." Don't take my word for it. Test it.
You CANNOT insult a narcissist who isn't in a position to bully you! It's impossible.Try it, you'll see. Your lack of vulnerability gives them skin a foot thick! (Not to mention a rubber spine.) "Touchy" my you-know-what. They aren't touchy at all. So perceived slights aren't what set them off. The VULNERABILITY of a TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY is what sets them off - IF there are no witnesses.
That's predation, not touchiness.
Narcissists aren't inconsiderate of your feelings. To the contrary, they are extremely considerate of your feelings. Your feelings are exactly what they are trying to affect. They closely observe how you react every time they do something to hurt you. And they are like sharks, able to smell a drop of blood a mile away.
Why? Because your hurt feelings are their pain killing drug. They are addicted to it. Ever since childhood. That's what their mental illness is, an addiction. (In fact, all addictions are classed as mental illness.)
So where do people get the stupid idea that narcissists aren't to blame for what they do? It's asinine to think that narcissists can't control themselves when we see them controlling themselves perfectly whenever witnesses are present. So, what? being behind closed doors makes them suddenly out of control of themselves? Baloney.
Their problem isn't lack of self control; it's lack of conscience. Conscience is what makes people behave the same in the dark as in the light of day. Okay, they have an addiction to trampling people. They are hooked on the childish high they get from throwing somebody down, stepping on the victim's back, and thumping their chest with a Tarzan yell.
But since when does an addiction amount to a carte blanche? An addiction is just a TEMPTATION. It doesn't remove the addict's responsibility to resist that temptation. If a heroin addict sees you with heroin, he will attack and may kill you for it - IF there are no witnesses present. But do we absolve him of his responsibility for the crime just because he's addicted to heroin? Of course not.
Same with the narcissist. Since childhood he has done this mind-altering drug of abusing people and is addicted to it. He addicted himself.
Yet addicted as he is, he demonstrates the ability to control himself by behaving whenever witnesses are present, misbehaving only when he thinks he can get away with it.
Innocence that is not.
He does what he does because nothing but getting his drug matters to him. So he has no conscience. He lives to get it, whenever he can get away with it. So, hurting others isn't something narcissists do by accident. It's how they live.
The victims of narcissists must understand this. They must quit falling for the masks predation conceals itself behind. I don't care how much the poor, little, ole narcissist whines that he didn't mean to, and claims that he has an excuse because HIS feelings were somehow hurt, and weeps about what a miserable childhood he had and how sad and forlorn he'll be if you go away, and all that crap. It's a joke.
Painful as this is to admit, the victims of narcissists MUST understand it. It's the bottom line. It predicates your choices.
Don't take my word for it: test and see. 2 + 2 = 4. Always.
Even on Thursdays.
SOURCE
ORIGINAL POST HERE
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