danFrom: d j Reply-To: vaaspman@yahoo.com
To: exposer@37.com
Cc: wayneorrell@wayneorrell.com
Subject: Re: reply
Date: Sat 06/14/08 05:28 AM
Good morning. Yes, you are stalking me. Anything I post on the Internet ends up on your website, and it is not your property. Please remove it immediately. If you are concerned about the vulnerable public, you will accept my offer to have this matter brought to litigation. You have my name and number. Please send me your contact information so that we can get the process started. If this is not amenable to you, I suggest you stop taking the law into your own hands. I deal with 45,000 people a day online, and none of this is new to me. Thanks. I look forward to hearing from you.
Dan Jacoby
804-389-0636
6/12/08 - MAIL FROM JACOBY!
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| Good afternoon. Please remove any and all reference to me from your web pages. I also ask that you quit stalking me and posting everything you find about me on your site. I do not know you, and you do not know me, which makes the things you write about me extremely reckless and damaging. The police have already notified Ms. Usher to discontinue this nonsense, and before further action against both you and Ms.Usher is required I would appreciate your cooperation. If you would rather I pursue this matter in another way, please forward me your contact information so that I may begin the process. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. Dan Jacoby 804.389.0636 Midlothian, Virginia Material in question is available for your review at: http://clearblogs.com/theexposer/67558/DAN%20JACOBY%20-%20PREYING%20ON%20THE%20VULNERABLE%20IN%20RECOVERY!.html ~~~~~~~~~~~
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TO: vaaspman@yahoo.com
RE: reply
No one is stalking you. We post information on predators like yourself to protect the vulnerable public.
We received this legally verified information from EOPC - including back up from four (4) completely independent sources.
You have our contact information.
Unless you are able to show hard evidence, not just your "words", that none of this is true - our legal advisors has assured us we have no reason to remove it. The truth is not actionable under the law.
exposer@37.com
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This account is no longer active. Please use the contact form on my main website or my telephone number to get in touch. Have a great day! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~RIIIIGGGHHTTTT -- we are going to HIS website so he can track our proxy servers or call him so he can get someone's cell phone number and harrass. Nice try.
He's even taken down that Yahoo address. Wonder if he's trying to scrub some web-caches as we speak? He did forward it to his "legal team" and Clearblogs.com
Sounds a LOT like this predator (they are all so alike, huh?)
This site is perfectly legal and operating within the same parameters as our sister site http://cyberpaths.blogspot.com. We have their legally verified information and this site, like EOPC - is to protect the public from people like this.
More about Mr. FREEDOM OF SPEECH -- except about him.
BTW we also have all the hits of your friend, a manager at one of the forums where you troll for your latest victims... you know -- the one from Nebraska -- PM'ing you and emailing you every single thing EOPC has sent to the other managers on that forum. She might think she's giving you a head's up, but she's WRONG. We have NO AGENDA other than protecting other vulnerable women from you & educating the public. However, you DO have an agenda -- and we know what it is.
4/1/ 2008: BTW - Mr. IP #96.228.55.69 -- spending over 23 hours on this site isn't a great way to spend your time but, all online predators & sociopathic types spend more time on their "image" than anything else!! We've had other women come forward because of this story -- and we are getting them in touch with the appropriate authorities!
And using any verbiage, images, copies of anything from this site is a violation of our copyright and legally enforceable.
***Before you write to the owners of Clearblogs.com we suggest you read over the BLOGGERS RIGHTS at www.eff.org - The Exposer***
ONE OF HIS VICTIMS TELLS HER STORY:
This dung-beetle hangs around support forums looking for vulnerable women coming off prescription drugs.
He scans blogs looking for an "in" then pounces with his "look how cool but 'sensitive' I am" routine and proceeds to suck trusting women into his filthy pit of lies and deceit. He lives with his wife, even though he tells people he is "waiting for his divorce to be finalised".
He pleads poverty and takes what he can from good hearted women when all the time he's driving around in his fancy Dodge Viper.
He's a dirty, narcissistic bottom-dweller, who, when his victims wake up to the the snake that he is, turns on and denigrates them in a most disgusting manner. He lives on the energy of women and drama under the pretence of love and devotion. He fits the profile of the narcissistic cyberpath perfectly.
Sometimes I wonder if he even took a prescription med. His taper seems to have lasted for years. I think he stumbled across these kind of sites after doing this "stuff" on different forums. I see him on other boards now acting like an angel and taking everyone in, and it makes my stomach turn. I know for a fact he's smearing me like he did about other women to me.
He is "supposedly" in the throes of withdrawal from medication himself. I don't know to this day how far this is true. I do know there've been plenty of "feigned" hospital visits. I wouldn't put anything past him.
I was warned by other women back in the day that he was a sexual predator, but refused to listen. I was "in love" and he always used to tell me that the other women were just jealous and were "crazy, nut-job, slutty tramps".
Of course I believed him, because I was in the height of w/d and he was always "my poor baby who nobody understood but me".
He was booted from the forum where I met him and transferred his attention to other "like" forums looking for "prey".
There's one woman in particular who hangs on his every word and I swear she'd take a "bullet" for him. If only she knew his "real" opinion of her. If you're reading this, contact me and I'll show you. I'm sure you are very well aware of who I am.
This filth scans the members list and singles out women that catch his predatory eye then watches until you're posting that you're really having a hard time and voila! He will play on the memory of a loved one who has passed away to get you to think of him the way you thought of them. He'll then try to replace them in your heart and mind and "be there" for you. He'll open you up and lead you along but the truth is you're not the only one but the pills blind you and he doesn't break contact for long enough to give you a chance to think or to come up for air.
That is until you outwear your usefullness, like I did. That's when he gets nasty and turns it all back onto you. I have proof of everything I've written here and much, much more, so if he wants to challenge me, then he should BRING IT ON!!!! He's warned me that he'll sully my good character should I expose him for what he is, but let him try. He can't hurt ME.
His usernames are:
"Dan"
"VaAspman"
"ViperDan"
Danazepam
JacobyD
He's also used bogus usernames such as "carolfilms" and "trailmix" (they're the ones that I know of) and even wrote to me as a the carolfilms character using sexual innuendo. That's how he gets his kicks, you see.
I also heard a while back that he persuaded a very vulnerable female who was an ex heroin addict to perform lurid sex acts on the webcam. He denied it and blamed someone else. I still don't know the whole truth but I wonder and I'm ashamed to say I believed him. Yeah, I have proof of this too, and (in his own words) the name of the man he blamed and other things he accused him of.
He's a filthy, stinking beast and I have to expose him for what he is. My conscience will not let me do otherwise. I can't let him do this to any other women and I feel like I should exonerate those I didn't believe when they tried to warn me. I also "googled" him with his username "VaAspMan" last year and found him registered on "sexforums". He freaked that I had the "audacity" to do that. (An innocent person wouldn't CARE!!)
He asked me over and over to perform lurid sex acts on a webcam and when I refused he'd freak and say that if I loved him I would do it to "make him happy". I put all this down to his "illness" but realise now that he really is the lying predator I was told that he was.
He just thinks he's "superior" to everyone else, and others(especially women) are beneath him. Some of the things he's said about females he acts friendly with now have been despicable. Heck, even some guys, too. He acts all pally with them, but he calls them awful names. They'd get the shock of their lives if they knew what he really thinks of them. I have proof of all that, too. Women should beware and stay away from this low-life. He's an emotional leech that'll suck you dry and think nothing of it.
In reflection, I wonder what I ever saw in him. I usually like a guy with "hair". He never would remove that cap. lol
I want to just add that I have a private blog which I started last
year when I first found his full details on the sexforums link when I googled him. I'm a good person and have prayed long and hard before I decided to do this. It's not a "knee-jerk" reaction and I am NOT a "woman scorned" as he told me he will portray me as if I ever came forward with all this. I have no doubt he'll try to damage me in an attempt to make himself "look" good and to "save face" amongst his "fans". For me, this is the difference between right and wrong, and doing the "right thing" has always, ALWAYS been extrememly important to me. I honestly believe that evil only prospers for so long and good
will always win out. This man "raped" my soul and deserves to be shown for exactly what he is. A sick, twisted monster. I just thank God I've been blessed with a conscience.
If this piece of filth was even "half" a man he'd get down on his
knees and ask God and me for forgiveness. In the very least he'd give me back my money. I won't hold my breath, though. He has the morals of a flea on a rat.
He can do his damndest to make me look bad. I really couldn't care less. If I can save even ONE WOMAN from going through
the HELL that I'M GOING THOUGH, it'll be worth all his filthy
mud-slinging.
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Complete with a photo of this (HAHAHA) "ladykiller"
OOPS - There he is
Wonder if we can get his WIFE to vote for him here?
And check out Mr. "I am So Poor I Use Drug-Recovery Forums to find Vulnerable Women, Play with their heads & ask them for MONEY" who posted this video of himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4_FyzrKZsQ
Just One of the Guitars on the wall behind him? Is worth $6K (u.s. funds).
(he set that video to private once we posted that URL; and now accuses us of STALKING him. )
Isn't he just "Mr. Wonderful"? (more like the charming Mr. SOCIOPATH) Don't try to hold him accountable or he will harrass you and turn it around and call YOU the harrasser!
Recognising Narcissism - Observing them at work
Behaviours and attitudes of the narcissist
See if you recognise any of the following:
* When he is good, he is wonderful. When he is bad he is a waking nightmare.
* He is always right and everyone else is always wrong.
* He will not accept criticism of any sort.
* His public image and how he is perceived is extremely important to him. Far more important than genuine interactions and relationships.
* He can get angry in an instant - often for things he has imagined or for no apparent or reasonably valid cause.
* When he is angry for something that he has imagined or misunderstood, you can try to prove the facts to him, drag in a hundred witnesses - he will still not change his mind.
* He twists facts to suit himself and sometimes "rewrites history" to match what he wants to believe.
* He has a natural tendency to believe the worst about people.
* He is an extremist and fickle. He can be absolutely loyal to someone, sing their praises and defend them to the death - then at the slightest disappointment, turn on them completely and in an instant.
* When not engaged in criticism and gossip, his conversation revolves around himself: his thoughts, his life, his feelings, his attitudes, his woes, his ailments, his achievements, his cleverness. Me, I and My.
* He will ask you how you are, then carry on speaking before you can answer, or cut you short and speak over you.
* If you speak loud enough and he is forced to listen (or because someone else who doesn't know the real him is around), you can see that he is not listening at all. He is distracted, possibly looking around and shuffling, or nodding his head too vigorously to speed you up. Perhaps he has simply gone glassy-eyed. You get the distinct feeling that he just wants you to shut up so that he can speak again.
* When he responds to something you have said, it is often either just a kind of grunt -- or it seems over the top.
* On the few occassions that he does praise you or acknowledge something you have done, it will normally be condescending, grudging, sarcastic or as a back-handed compliment.
* What he says and what he does seem like two opposite worlds.
* When he is with outsiders he is such a charming, friendly man. People tend to like him and admire him and you are amazed at how rational he is with them.
* He is very possibly a pillar of society and looked up to by those who deal with him but are not close. He may be in a position of leadership.
* He goes on at length and with quite some passion about things that he himself does. For example, loudly complaining about men who abusing or cheating on their wives and speaking about what harsh punishments they should be subjected to - then going home and abusing & cheating on his own wife.
* He knows how to do everything better. He could do that job better, run the organization better, run the country better…..
* He knows the answer to all of the worlds biggest problems... if only someone would listen to him/ finance him/ whatever.
* He is a victim of everyone and everything: those in authority over him, his family, his circumstances, his health, his past. He is a victim and a martyr, period. What other people accept as part of life, he takes as a personal affront, if not attack.
* When someone close to him achieves something noteworthy, he makes it about himself and in some way will take the credit for it, ensuring that he is in the limelight, not the person who actually deserves it.
* He inflicts pain on others and actually enjoys doing it.
* He strategically plans how to break people down and hurt them.
* He is a control freak.
* If he knows something is important to you, he will use it to punish or control you.
* If he knows something is important to you, he will in some way try to deprive you of it or make you jump through hoops for it.
* He is the worst possible gift giver, seldom if ever giving you what you really want. Most times you will get something that you really don't want or an extremely inferior version of what you want and then woe betide you if you are not overcome with gratitude for it.
* He gives you his discards and expects you to be really grateful. After all, even his junk has more value than anything new that you could buy or own.
* He does you favours that bear a high price. Everything he does for you requires your eternal gratitude and any "debts" to this person are never paid off, no matter what you do.
SOURCE
Megan Meier (left)/ Ashley Grills (right)
We can only pray that Drew gets the jail time for her immature & malicious intentions towards poor Megan Meier. This case will set a precedent for those who wish to pursue charges against their predators for INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS.
Predators often do the same things Mrs. Drew did - use false identities, lure vulnerable persons into online relationships, smear them, bully them and discard them - leaving adult victims with serious PTSD and other problems.
In our opinion, Megan Meier was a young girl who deserved a lot better than being set up and yes -- pushed to suicide by a remorseless person like Lori Drew.
REMEMBER: The Courts & Prosecutors INITIALLY said "THERE WAS NO CASE." But Tina Meier (Megan's mother) and people like us - the bloggers, who the press tried to smear as a "cybermob," kept after this case.
Victims - NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVE UP PURSUING JUSTICE!!!!!!!
Central District of California
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MISSOURI WOMAN INDICTED ON CHARGES OF USING MYSPACE TO 'CYBER-BULLY' 13-YEAR-OLD WHO LATER COMMITTED SUICIDE
The woman posed as a teenage boy who feigned romantic interest in a 13 year-old girl, who later committed suicide after the "boy" spurned her and told her, among other things, that the world would be a better place without her.
Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Mo., was named in a four-count indictment returned this morning by a federal grand jury. The indictment charges one count of conspiracy and three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on the girl who, because of juvenile privacy rules, is referred to in the indictment only as M.T.M.
The indictment alleges that Drew, along with others, registered as a member of MySpace under the name "Josh Evans." Drew and her co-conspirators then used the Josh Evans account to contact M.T.M. and began what the girl believed was an on-line romance with a 16-year-old boy.
In taking those actions, the indictment alleges, Drew and her co-conspirators violated MySpace's terms of service that prohibit users from, among other things, using fraudulent registration information, using accounts to obtain personal information about juvenile members, and using the MySpace communication services to harass, abuse or harm other members.
After approximately four weeks of flirtatious communications between "Josh Evans" and M.T.M., Drew and her co-conspirators broke off the relationship. Within an hour, M.T.M. had hanged herself in her room. She died the next day.
Any adult who uses the Internet or a social gathering Web site to bully or harass another person, particularly a young teenage girl, needs to realize that their actions can have serious consequences."To become a member of MySpace, individuals are required to submit registration information – including name and date of birth – and have to agree to certain terms of service that regulate their use of the Web site. Among other things, MySpace terms of service require prospective members to provide truthful and accurate registration information; to refrain from using any information obtained from MySpace services to harass, abuse or harm other people; to refrain from soliciting personal information from anyone under 18; to refrain from promoting information that they know is false or misleading; and to refrain from posting photographs of other people without their consent.
The indictment alleges that Drew and her co-conspirators violated all of those provisions.
"Whether we characterize this tragic case as 'cyber-bullying,' cyber abuse or illegal computer access, it should serve as a reminder that our children use the Internet for social interaction and that technology has altered the way they conduct their daily activities," said Salvador Hernandez, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI in Los Angeles. "As adults, we must be sensitive to the potential dangers posed by the use of the Internet by our children."
The conspiracy count carries a maximum statutory penalty of five years in federal prison. Each count of accessing protected computers, each of which alleges that the access was for the purpose of intentionally inflicting emotional distress on M.T.M., carries a maximum possible penalty of five years in prison.
An indictment contains allegations that a defendant has committed a crime. Every defendant is presumed to be innocent unless and until proven guilty.
Drew will be summoned to appear for an arraignment in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles in June.
This case was investigated by special agents with the FBI in St. Louis and Los Angeles.
Our deep thanks to Denise Marhoefer of the Defense Foundation for Children USA for her help and sending us this information.
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In June 2007, our friends at EOPC re-ran the story of "J"/GRIDNEY - (please go read because this online predator's a piece of work aside from being a great education on how they ALL work.)
A year ago EOPC told us one of this online predator's victims was STILL being victimized by him (he called it "a falling out" ha ha ha) yet again and she wrote a blog with all the information on it called THE STUMBLING BLOCK. Its well worth a read because you can really see her devastation and emotional turmoil. Every victim could relate to her honesty!
Now readers -- compare this to the childish, rageful actions of someone you have told the truth about. Let's break it down; see how it compares.
1. "YOU STARTED IT!"... Even if You Didn't
"J"/GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid wants this victim to control the internet and take down all posts about him - she tried. EOPC said no, we said no. Mostly because this victim (there was more than one) was not the INITIATOR of the exposes! But he's going to continue to give her a public beat down because beating up on defenseless people makes him feel like a big man.
She reports that she begged an MSN support site to remove her posts (the MSN Site REFUSED) about him when that site owner (femfree@yahoo.com) told her HE WAS SURFING HER NICKNAME AND COMING THERE TO READ EVERYTHING SHE WROTE!
Yet he's mad? Incredible!
yidwithlid also committed copyright infringment against our old sites and EOPC. We had written to Blogger.com about it - so in response, this bully saids he's making a bunch of new hate sites about his victim. To RETALIATE FOR THE TRUTH BEING OUT THERE!
Why? Because he thinks: She is us. EOPC told us he thinks she is them too!
He's scared of her because she's that OMNIPOTENT? This is so funny because this victim does nothing for either us or EOPC. Nor was she the person who initiated his exposures.
But of course, anyone who exposes the almighty YIDWITHLID must be only her, right? (they all think they're almighty, don't they? Like Ed Hicks who tells everyone the wives he committed bigamy & fraud on set HIM up... LOL!)
This even after she asked everyone to stop bothering him. Unfortunately - can't control everyone now, can you?
Gridney/ Yidwithlid is also furious that we Linked to his website!
Well, if he truly believes he's done nothing wrong & that HE is the victim - he should be glad for the free publicity!
CHECK OUT WHAT GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid says to what apparently is one of his victim's friends on his hate blog about his victim:
Are you telling me that Elizabeth posted my picture on the internet including MSN newsgroups as NYC******.
Barbara signed the letter to the Rabbi At aish?
GRIDNEY/ YidwithLid TRULY IS CRAZY!
We have copies of what is on his victim's site:
the person at AISH he is talking about? The victim named ELIZABETH?
- She initially wrote this Rabbi at AISH
- GAVE the Rabbi this Barbara's email
- Barbara RESPONDED to the Rabbi's inquiry email about him.
Not initiated. RESPONDED.
GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID, like all cyberpaths - sees only what makes him look like the victim.
So Mr. GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID - Tell us - what were your victims supposed to do?: LIE & COVER MORE FOR YOU? ACT LIKE IT DIDN'T AFTER YOU DESTROYED TWO WOMEN? ACT AS COLD & UNCARING ABOUT WHAT YOU'D DONE TO THEM AS YOU?
Remember readers: To a cyberpath you are nothing but a hologram or an object, not a real person and certainly not entitled to feelings! You're there only to make them feel good. Like the porn babes so many of them are addicted to, their victims are supposed to GO AWAY with just a click. Cyberpaths look at you as a FREEBIE. They believe they owe you NOTHING. But you aren't nothing - you are SOMEONE!
(Reminder, that MSN group was a VICTIMS SUPPORT GROUP - so YIDWITHLID's just admitted HE'S a stalker!.
And that particular MSN support group? His picture is there - BUT HIS NAME IS NOT! So unless he has even MORE victims who might recognize him (he probably does) - he's angry over NOTHING!)
None of his targets EVER used that nickname he rants about on MSN. MSN however, knows he was SURFING and stalking his victims from board to board! Monitoring their every word and emotional pain. What a GREAT GUY!! (click here for more)
Try to keep this straight: This predator admits surfing a SUPPORT group. For one of his victims. When she was out of her mind with emotional pain, fear and trauma because of WHAT HE DID TO HER & other women (including his wife)?
And then:
HE's the angry one who wants his victims to JUST FORGET IT so he can lie, never apologize, smear them and continue duping his family & friends?
UNREAL
2. The Predator's Boundless Sense of Entitlement
How CRUEL can one Yid be? And he just wants his victims to FORGET about the trauma like it never happened? They are 'nutjobs' for having feelings and not being complicit with his untruthful version of things?
BALLSY, aren't these jerks!
GRIDNEY/ YIDWITHLID victimizes one innocent woman, slanders her, lies to her and when she figures his scheme out & that he's been using & abusing her for 2 years (the abuse sent her to the hospital more than once!!) -- he: GOES TO ONLINE SUPPORT GROUPS, FINDS & READS EVERYTHING THIS POOR TRAUMATIZED VICTIM IS VENTING ABOUT (WHAT HE PURPOSELY DID TO HER & HER FAMILY) AND LOOKING FOR SUPPORT ABOUT!
Be warned -- is yours doing this to YOU?
As a victim: you are 'out of your mind' looking for help and they are cyberstalking you reading EVERY WORD YOU ARE SAYING?
Gridney/Yidwithlid went so far as to post on one site (it was since removed because of the slanderous nature of the whole post by the site owners; who confirmed as much to The Exposer) :
"she tried to get me listen. No way bitch!"
So, Gridney/ Yidwithlid has proved he's a nasty bully. He doesn't even want to hear that Target #1 tried to do what he wanted. This liar had said prior to that, that he "didn't have time for hate." Now he's confirmed he's not just a bully - he's a pathological liar. He certainly made time for hate, when his Target #1 made time to attempt to make peace. (says alot about these cyberpaths, don't it?)
Gridney/ YidwithLid has gone so far as to accuse his target of being a PREDATOR (can you say PROJECTION?) and says she purposely put him on a porn aggregator (uh... Gridney/ Yid? Those are AUTOMATIC AGGREGATORS that troll the net for specific words... NO one PUTS you on one of those! You can't even JOIN one) Guess ole' Gridney/ Yidwithlid does an awful lot of ego surfing, huh?
GRIDNEY /YidwithLid even says the relationship was "her fault too" and she "played his game" with him. He neglects to mention that this victim genuinely cared for him while he LIED to her & had a hidden , destructive and malicious agenda towards her. (Don't they all?)
Is this starting to remind anyone of elementary school?
5. "I am the Victim Here"
His victim's site has a post which GRIDNEY/ Yidwithlid put on his own blog which whitewashes what he did. He never talks about his addiction to hookers, porn, phone sex, cybersex babes, etc. And twists what happened to make his victims look bad. "Mr. Innocent" paints himself as the victim. (playing victim is part of the profile of a sociopathic person)
6. Half-Baked Accountability
This narcissist even created a new profile on TECHNORATI (click here) to keep the hits to his hate site comin'!!! He removed his post of twisted reality from his blog and went right back to business as usual. Did we forget to mention he has NEVER taken down the hate site. hmmm.....
Like all emotional predators/ cheaters & womanizers - he targets the most vulnerable person for everything - even when she has clear, hard evidence what she did and didn't do.
Don't make a cyberpath THINK about what they've done!! Goodness no! They are beyond reproach.
No "I'm Sorry", no attempt to speak to his victims (got PLENTY of lame excuses not to) - just rage. He tells his victims to MOVE ON or GET OVER IT because he has. (of course he has -- LOL, why apologize for destroying someone's life) (classic pathological trait - no empathy or remorse for anyone but himself and the people he needs [family] to keep up the facade)
By the way, "moved on" is predator paramoralizing for "shut up about the truth so I can go back to banging whores and picking up vulnerable women online."
Let's look at Gridney/ YidwithLid's version of "moving on" - here's a message we would guess is for his victim.
Like many exposed cyberpaths - Gridney/Yidwithlid says we are "hurting his wonderful wife." No one was comparing his wife to his victims - EXCEPT HIM! His victims are good people. His wife is probably a good person. Only predators make those comparisons to attempt to further tear down the credibility of the victims!
He also says he and his wife have "WORKED IT OUT". Wouldn't you just LOVE to hear the bullcrap he told his wife about these normal, vulnerable women HE preyed on and sent to the hospital?? Not the prostitutes - the NORMAL ones. (probably the same bull he was saying about his wife to these women... since he follows the classic predator pattern)
7. Copyright Infringement (Playing Stupid, but...)
YID asserts because he was part of the chats published on EOPC that he owns the copyright. He did own part of the copyright to the chat only - but not our or EOPC's comments or commentary on the chats (which are wall to wall lies & manipulation on his part).
Cyberpaths HATE when you have verifiable evidence on them! (And often they give you that evidence THEMSELVES because they believe they will never get caught! -- WRONG)
He can't revoke the copyright either because it was published a couple years ago originally by EOPC and they extended their copyright to us - and the permission of only one of the chatters or emailers is necessary - and EOPC got that.
In fact: The Exposer did a little checking and back in March 2007, Sammy (yidwithlid's pseudonym) posted this on someone else's blog (along with some other thin-skinned sarcasm):
Posted by: Sammy Benoit | Mar 16, 2007 5:01:07 AM
A copyright may be embedded into a bitmap or jpeg file with software on a Mac or PC. Also, there are several companies that can officially help copyright images so that it is documented.
If these two things are done, and a quiet agreement is made with whomever uses it, it should be pretty easy to please everyone, and misuse of it would be easy to spot and stop. Well, hopefully.
So he does know about copyrights! Well, well, well.
We filed on him with IC3.gov and ChillingEffects.org.
What did we get for filing? Nastiness - and childish emails like these:
To: cyberpaths@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:33:58 EDT
Subject: Re: http://stumblingtchatzkahs.blogspot.com http://stumblingtchatzkahs.blogspot.com/2007/06/XXX-XXX-makes-threat.html __________________
From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: exposer@37.com
Received-On: 06/26/07 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Remove Content Please
NO
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From Yidwithlid@aol.com by mo-m22.mx.aol.com for exposer@37.com Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Yidwithlid@aol.com X-Eon-Dm: dm08 Date: 06/26/07 1:54 PM
From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: exposer@37.com
Received-On: 06/26/07 5:54 PM
Re: Remove Content Please
No
But thanks for asking
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From: Yidwithlid@aol.com
To: exposer@37.com
Cc: support@blogger.com
Received-On: 06/28/07 3:47 PM
Re: http://stumblingtchatzkahs.blogspot.com
cool two emails from you today thank you so much.. If you are publishing stuff that I wrote..then who gave you the copywite...I didnt. and I didnt write them say so take off all references to me and I will take down my site
By the way Are you enjoying the Nut job convention [victim's name]?
Tonight I am going to open up three new stumling tchatches sites.
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These immature emails bring to mind this quote:
Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.
~ Whittaker Chambers
8. This is MY Club, You Aren't Allowed
This cyberbully who is such an innocent victim? Pay attention to the infantile baloney a predator like him can pull:
Gridney/ Yidwithlid says he supposedly has VERY LITTLE POWER over a blogging aggregator to which both he & his Target 1 belong. (He says she's "following him"... LOL)
We read on her blog she was hacked May 2007. She won't tell us who did it - but we think we know. Gridney/ Yidwithlid says he has no idea what is going on & is outraged he and his cyber posse are even suspected! This victim of his? Never said his name or that she suspected him. Sounds like GUILT, Yid!
And... hmmm, he should be more careful what he HIMSELF puts on the net. The Exposer actually checks!!
GRIDNEY/ YidwithLid's got lots of blogs out there. Sounds like self-admitted narcissist Sam Vaknin. Can't get enough of themselves so they fill up the net with their rhetoric. Also creates a wider net for them to lure more innocents in to their web.
This one's from yidwithlid.typepad.com January 2007:
"January 21, 2007
New Peoples Choice Category: Most abusive of system
From two different sides of the world we wondered ....Who was crapping on our posts and yours. We had our lists of suspects but couldn't prove who was giving the bad grades ten at a time ...and how they were working sooooooo fast. Still have no clear proof. We do have some suspects . We googled the posts of one and noticed that there was one who would put up 8-9 posts one day, get them up over a hundred points take them down and repost the same articles the next day.
Then Sherlock Bagel Blogger found the a gun that was smoking even more. He put it in a much nicer way than me:
The awards known as the People's Choice awards seem to be finishing a lot quicker than most people expected.
I was going to hold on to this information until the results of the People's Choice Awards' became known, but I feel that it is not being honest to not divulge what I know.
I've debated with my self, my family and friends, should I or shouldn't I?
I also don't want to be accused of 'bitter lemons'.
I wrote a letter to another blogger and in the course of the letter I presented/made a table, now that I have made the table I feel something is seriously amiss.
I wont say what it is.
I'll leave the plain facts speak for them selves.
I have a PDF of the Google cache of 17th of Jan of the Israel forum's blog_best [rankings] which is now no longer available. [I have a copy and a html back up]
and I have a PDF of the 19 th Jan 2007 Israel forum's blog_best
Thats less than two days apart
What's the main difference? Well check it out you should be able to see it, it occurred over less than two days.
The person is relying on no one seeing anything or saying anything. Well I won't say anything if you don't.
Well here it is in Table form:
Rank 19th Jan Blog Name Votes tally on 17th Jan Rank on 17th Jan Votes tally 19th Jan
Date last activity
Tally count difference
Up or DownPlaces
1 The Last Best Place 5224 1 5503 18th 279 0
2 Freedom's Cost 3676 2 3734 16th 58 0
3 Yid With Lid 5916 3 6066 18th 150 0
4 Samson Blinded 2359 8 3579 18th 1220 +4
5 Daf Notes 3993 4 4199 18th 206 -1
6 Bagel Blogger 4737 5 4949 19th 212 -1
7 The Maggid of Bergenfield 1092 6 1113 16th 21 -1
8 Simply Jews 6818 7 6978 18th 160 -1
9 Baleboosteh 2367 9 2422 18th 55 0
10 JoeSettler 2253 11 2255 17th 2 +1
11 Sarah's View 4317 10 4366 18th 49 -1
12 The Way I See It 3250 12 3279 16th 29 0
13 Divrei Chaim 1385 13 1404 18th 19 0
14 Orthomom 3016 17 3102 18th 86 +3
15 Chayyei Sarah 1592 15 1592 14th 0 0
16 Ask Shifra 1600 16 1616 14th 16 0
17 The Muqata 2078 14 2140 18th 62 -3
18 Slightly Mad 1425 18 1425 14th 0 0
19 Israellycool 4319 19 4440 19th 121 0
20 Lazer Beams 2230 20 2315 18th 85 0
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Here are snapshots of sections of the webpages in question:"
He took 'snapshots'?
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Seems he and this BagelBlogger are into watching who comes and goes from this 'supposedly' unbiased aggregator and 'totally fair' blog voting. CLICK HERE TO LOOK WHO'S AT THE TOPS ON THE AGGREGATOR!!
If you click the link to the aggregator? Yid has MORE VOTES THAN ANYONE ELSE - almost DOUBLE! And the top blogger list has numerous bloggers who haven't posted in weeks according to the dates.
Yid and Bagel Blogger are CAREFUL not to make themselves #1 and #2 - there's some rigging going on? - this aggregator apparently a fixed race for FRIENDS or ASSOCIATES OF THESE TWO AND THEIR COHORTS? Looks like they DO have some 'power' and control over this aggregator.
So Target #1? You don't need to tell us who hacked you - we know.
Gridney/ Yidwithlid also takes out his frustrations when he is hacked with more cybersilliness: HERE
9. Rules Don't Apply to ME!
Here's a quote from GRIDNEY (YidwithLid's) on 8/14/07 - on his website:
I love the web's freedom. But with freedom comes responsibility. Certainly those who use the internet to harass or terrorize are abusing the freedom the internet brings.
Let us guess - if someone is exposing YID for the predator, bully and liar he is - they're a terrorizer.
Sure he loves the web's freedom - to prey on trusting women and dispose of them when they become inconvenient with no remorse! (sounds like all of them! blame-shifting and paramoralizing)
But when HE is called out on his predatory & manipulative actions towards the vulnerable women he targets; women who actually CARE about him - he's a victim.
And if you want to prey on, lie to and manipulate vulnerable women and use them as sex toys to be tossed away when you're done - to YidwithLid - That's FREEDOM!
The Exposer knows - FREEDOM isn't FREE. And where's your responsibility, YidwithLid? For what you did to innocent people?
Did we mention cyberpaths are hypocrites?
10. Terrorizing, Domination & Control
Cyberpaths, Predators and all Pathologicals are like most abusers - its about Control. Particularly the control of the flow of information and truth. Let's take a peak at how this cyberpath does some of it:
GRIDNEY (aka YidWithLid) has his blogs set so:
1. you HAVE to have a Blogger account to comment;
2. no anonymous comments. He "says" its for the integrity of his blogs! B.S. He wants to be able to track & smear anyone who calls him on his lies - just like a predator - always protecting their "image." CAN WE SAY HYPOCRITE!
Hold on! Gridney/ YidwithLid doesn't use his real name! So that makes HIS comments anonymous. Smells like a double standard there SAMMY!
Cyberpaths love to check the web for any evidence of their misdoings and try to erase it. NOTHING ever really disappears on the web. Nothing. If someone knows how to get into cache files - the internet is a FOREVER thing.
(Gridney/ Yidwithlid likes to log into the Exposer from an IP in Nashville, TN - wonder if his employer knows he does that?) as well as foreign IPs like Germany, Norway and so on.
12. The Use of 'Helpers' to Do Their Dirty Work
Also, Gridney/ Yidwithlid has made contact with an ex-client of his Target #1 (Target #1 is now a DV counselor). This woman - named "Judy" - has a lot of transferred anger against Target #1 because of her recommendationd "Judy" get professional counseling. And from 'Judy's actions below - she seems to really need it!
(gridney/ YidwithLid as "Moses"
can you say GRANDIOSE?)
Here's the slander "Judy" posted around the net after talking to Gridney/Yidwithlid about this poor victim (tell us, did your predator, ex and their buddies say similar crap about you when you told the truth? - they all seem to pull from the same 'slander pool')
Cyberpaths love to get others to either do or help the do their dirty work:
"BARBARA XXXX is sooo pissed off at the world that she has to bad mouth people. This phone sex whore has never meet me. She has never talked to me. I have NO idea why this BITCH hates me. We live across the country from each other. She is BI-POLAR and forgets to take her meds. (Barbara is not Bi-Polar or on any psychiatric meds)Cyberpaths love to use proxies (helpers)! (both the human & internet kind) Don't worry - its been reported to law enforcement by us, too!
She's very fat and very over weight. (Neglects to mention the fact Barbara's weight is due to chronic physical disability and that she has had multiple surgeries) In fact, BITCH BARBARA is a diabetic (No, she's not diabetic as far as we know) and doesn't take her metformin. (huh?)
She is into phone sex. She was giving phone sex to [Gridney/ Yidwithlid] until he tired of her. (she did? well -- at least Yid kinda 'admitted' to 'Judy' he used Barbara until he got bored) She begged him to give her another chance. When he wouldn't she posted his name all over the internet. (Barbara never begged him to give her another chance nor was she the one who posted his exposes anywhere! EOPC contacted HER not the other way around! LOL) Even called the cops on him. (Reported his verified death threats against her) Unreal! BITCH, what part of "He's just not in to you" don't you get? During all of this phone sex, her husband is in the next room. (and 'Judy' knows this how? when she started by saying she doesn't even know this Barbara... LOL) Unbelievable! I've heard that he has moved upstairs to get away from the BITCH WHO LOVES PHONE SEX BECAUSE NO MAN ON EARTH WANTS TO HAVE REAL SEX WITH THIS UGLY BITCH. (Barbara is divorced now, and she initiated the divorce. Her husband didn't want to divorce her. As for her sex life, again - how would 'Judy' or Gridney/ Yidwithlid know this??) It's the only sex she will ever get. EVER. She says she can't work because she's to fat to move. (Again, no mention of her severe physical disability - which has nothing to do with being um... fat)
So if your into phone sex, go ahead, give the bitch a call. (845)687-7706. If your in the neighborhood, go see how ugly she is: 372 Scarawan Road, Stone Ridge, New York. Or drop her a sickning card: 2 2 RR 2 Box 115 Accord, New York, 12402. E-mail this phone sex addict at: pedsilva@gawab.com or at BDC@yahoo.com Silva is her maiden name. (we only published all this information above because it's not only all incorrect, it was never valid... so where 'Judy' got this from who knows! wait she says where she got it from below... NOT!!)
She has harrassed me to the point of threatening my life along with my sons. I had to give her name to the FBI. They in return gave me her full name. (LOL - wow then the FBI got it wrong. Besides, the FBI would never ever give out personal information like that. Wonder if they know what Judy's saying about them? And 'Judy's' children are adults - how can they all be threatened?) This bitch has called me to harrass me at home. I had to change my number. (Barbara has never called 'Judy' and we are aware that a search of her phone records over the past 4 years would show this. A complete lie by one of Gridney/ Yidwithlid's new terrorizing assistant!!) Remember, she doesn't even know me. I have no idea whats up her ass. Probably her dildo got stuck and pissed her off cuz she can't get it out! I'd sure like to put her picture up her. Her birthdate is Aug. 9, 63 but if you saw her you'd swear she was born in 43! She has the most ugliest hairdo from the 60's that I've ever seen. (Again, completely fallacious information) I hope to God she gets back on her meds. (you do? below 'Judy' hopes she has a heart attack. hmmm) A total fucking fool! She needs to learn to let go! Yes Barbara the bitch! LET IT GO! I never did one thing to you bitch. Not one thing. (what would you call this, ma'am?) Leave me alone. Leave my family alone. The atthorities know all about you. They have the threatening e-mails you sent to my now defunked e-mail address. (We contacted some of our contacts at 'the authorities' - just to check - they have no such things. They don't exist) She has also been arrested many times for harrassment. (Barbara has never been charged or arrested. Ever.) She hates men to the point of trying to dystroy thier lives. If she only knew it's her life that she's destroying. It's eating away at her. Right now. As she reads this. Her blood pressure is soaring through the ceiling! I hope she has a heart attack. (again, 'Judy' would know all this how???? and who's making death threats/ death wishes here?)
(note: 'Judy' seems to be a serial cyber-harrasser)
So readers - when someone posts non-factual, nonsense made out of whole cloth about you on the web? All you can do is laugh!!! But if they DO post death threats or your personal information. Contact your police and the FBI office nearest you immediately!
13. How Dare You Tell the Truth!
Reminder: Cyberpaths HATE when you show a backbone & stand up for yourself. HATE IT!
Readers, you can see who's at fault here for yourself...
...Since when is it good to be friendly with bad people? Since when is winking at their wrongdoing a virtue?
Perhaps someone can quote chapter and verse in the comments, because holier-than-thous really deserve to have their religion's true teachings show what frauds their twisting of religious doctrine makes them. In the New Testament, in Revelations, I believe, in one of the letters to the churches, some holier-than-thou Christians are read the riot act for that very same pretense.
The author unloads both barrels at them with this truth: "Good people are not lukewarm toward evil" it says.
Cowards are.
Loving good is hating evil. And vice versa. Love is an attraction; hate a repulsion. But that is too simple for complex people to understand.
Now I am not saying that we must reject everyone not perfect, for then we would reject everyone, including ourselves. But decent people need no instruction. There is a point at which behavior becomes predatory and malicious - a point at which one is morally obligated to separate themselves from that person.
You thus take away a bad actor's safety in numbers. You show disapproval. You discourage others from behaving the same way. You comfort the victim by showing him or her that the pain caused them by the bad guy matters to you.
Is any of that evil?
It's just a way of discouraging the harm the bad guy is doing others by showing that you want nothing to do with someone who hurts others like that.
Where is the sin in that, pray tell? Sounds like fine, upstanding conduct to me.
Jesus of Nazareth spoke of this when he said that "indecent conduct" is a special case and justification for divorce even. At the time, the terms "indecent" or "lewd" conduct simply meant "lowdown" or "despicable" conduct of any sort.
And that statement of his, qualifying his disapproval of divorce, is just common sense.
Why? Let's say you are married to a Mafia boss. Is it right for you live in his big fancy house, being waited on by his hired staff? Is it right for you to PROFIT from the crimes he commits and ther damage he does to people?
To the contrary: it is immoral for you not to divorce him when you find out what he is.
The same people who make a virtue of "accepting" abusive narcissists, relentlessly persecute anyone for any hint of racism or sexism. THAT they won't tolerate. They wouldn't DREAM of tolerating anything politically incorrect like that.
But though they know and believe that the narcissist has brutally abused you, they see no reason to show any disapproval of that.
Hmmm. Whom do they think they're fooling?
They make nothing of that narcissist's abuse of you. They countenance it.
If instead they rejected the narcissist, they would be doing the one small thing they could to get on the right side, the victim's side.
But they abandon the victim and smile in the abuser's face.
Not so holy as they pretend.
(note: Kathy Krajco passed away on May 9, 2008 - she will be DEEPLY missed)